May 7, 2007Is it normal for tires to slip on the rim and if so, how much and how long? Reason I ask is, I got some new rims and had my old tires mounted on them. A day after the balance, I noticed a little wobble in the steering wheel. All I could figure is that the tire must have moved. I then marked the tire to the rim and checked it once a day. So far, all have moved at least 1/8" from their mark. The worst has moved about 2" from the mark. Is this normal and when will it stop? Would this effect the balance?
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May 7, 2007I've never heard of this happening and would assume something is wrong. If there is a wobble at certain speeds it is probably most definately a balancing issue.
What size rims/tires do you have?
May 7, 2007This is definitely strange - I've never heard of this. If the tire is moving it would indicate that the bead has been popped. Is the tire holding air?
The balance is based on a set position, so any movement would most certainly have a negative effect.
May 7, 2007if your new rims are 22's and your old rims were 24's....
that would do it.
no, all kidding aside. are you sure your new rims fit the size of your old tires? Maybe they put WAAAAY too much of that lube stuff on the bead and it's just slipping, but I've never heard of that. Probably like Vroom said, the bead might have popped loose, but I think you'd have worse problems than a few inches of slipping if that happened.
I just thought of something. Could it be your rim? Maybe someone will chime in on that. Is it possible that when the rim was manufactured that the lip/inside of it was made wrong?
May 7, 2007Actually, I posted the wobble issue in a another post. I didn't want to mix things up, because this is a new issue, however, I think it might related to the old steering wheel wobble issue.
The rims I had were 24s and they were replaced with another style of 24s. The tires are the same. That's what makes me think it is a tire issue. I've heard from tire guys that tires will slip in the first little it of use, but I never new how much. I was hoping that someone here was a tire expert and could answer this question. Seems like every trip to and from work, the tire slips more and more. I got the tires on tuesday of last week and have been measuring slippage since saturday.
May 7, 2007I have no clue about the topic at hand, but i dont know you and rims just dont see to be on the same page hehe..
If you find out please keep us posted.
May 17, 2007darita, it is possible for the tire/rim to move in relation to each other if you do hard braking or hard take-offs. If you look at some higher hp racecars, they actually bolt the tire to the rim to prevent this effect from happening.
First thing that I would check is that the tires are inflated to the recommended pressure (should be atleast 35 psi). If you have this pressure, that should be enough to prevent the tire from rotating in relation to the rim. Could be that the tech installed too much lube, but in a lot of cases, this is nothing more than some water with a soapy solution or something of the like. After a day, all of that should be gone unless they filled your tire with the stuff, then you would have other issues.
It might be possible that there was some grease/oil left over from the manufacturing process and now that is still on the rim and allowing the slippage. I would also take a look at the hardness of the rubber used in the tire. If you get too hard of rubber, then it won't grip on to the rim.
Chris "THermo" Coleman and Nukie, the radioactive 97 X
May 17, 2007I agree, you and rims arent a good combination. You may need to get a different brand of tires, because it seems that the pirelli's are wobbling you back and forth to the shop..lol
May 17, 2007I agree with Thermo, Unless you just stood on the brakes to avoid a collision there is no practical way in everyday driving that would have made the beads slip in those tires. It takes a full summer at the track with drag radials, high stall and deep gears in my friends street/strip car to move his radials maybe a 1/4". Something else is up.
May 18, 2007Well, the tire has finally stopped moving on the wheel...for the most part. I've very little movement in the past few days. I'll let you know if I see any more movement. I mentioned it to my tire guy and he says it's not unusual for movement to occur in the first week or too after mounting. This one seemed to move a bit more than usual though. Hopefully it has stopped. After I'm sure it's no longer moving, I'll get a road force balance.
May 18, 2007Tires usually only slip on the wheel when aired down (like offroading).
May 19, 2007Can you imagine if you tried to stop your truck and you just kept on going because your tires were slipping on the rims.
This was weird but im glad you resolved it. DRAG guys rivit their slicks to their rims sometimes. Street applications, I have never heard of this.