May 4, 2005I wanted to try and paint some small peices myself. What all do I need to do this. Can I just buy a paint sprayer like this or a gravity fed one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26228&item=7511993474&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW. And then hook it up to air and then buy paint and primer. Do I need anything else I know nothing about painting with a gun, any help would be good.
May 4, 2005Hopefully Are man Steve will be around to give you some tips ...
May 4, 2005Wow, I like your enthusiasm. But a gun, air supply primer and paint is a pretty vague view of what is involved but ok let's start from there.
HVLP spray gun = $100-500
Air supply = compressor = 30 gal minumum = $300-500
Primer = 1qt = $20
Hardener = - 1 qt = $28
Gun clearer = 1 gal = $14
Paint = 1 pint = $45
Reducer = 1 pint = $18
Now this is just what you mentioned with the additions of things you will need for this items and considering you may already have a compressor.
But you will also need
Air hose = 25' = $35
Clear paint = 1 quart = $45
Hardener = 1 quart = $28
Water filter = $18
Spray mask = $38
Brushes to clear your gun (Home Depot) $5
mixing sticks (They are free when you purchase paint)
Paint filter (Also free)
Sand Paper 220, 400, 1500, 2000 normally $1.98 each sheet
This is just the minimum you will need to start painting with pro paints. Then practice alot, did I mention practice?
Duplicolor $5 a can and a lot of patients, and the ability to re-do them several times over again because of mistakes and live with the redicule you will get from your fellow car friends that might say how crappy it looks. J/J.
May 4, 2005Thanks for the reply. It sounds like Im better off having a body shop paint the stuff for me, I thought I could save some money doing it myself but I guess not. Are those sprayers on ebay trash even for a few things? I wanted to paint my running boards, dash, and body trim and maybe my rear bumper black, how much you think a body shop would charge(I could do any sand prep myself). I was also thinking about painting a friends mirrors that he got. Does that duplicor paint look that bad, would it be really obvious?
May 5, 2005Obvious? Absolutely, also spray can paints are not designed to withstand the outside elements so I will say this one time.
Don't use spray can paints for exterior automotive parts. PERIOD!
I don't know what kind of sprayer off Ebay your taking about but if it's a pro automtive spray gun, even the cheapest spray gun will put out some great paint work coming from a pro.
Think about this, have you ever been to a custom car show? Seen a lot of classic cars? Well, let me tell ya this all there paint work on those cars dash board, bumpers ect...ect...ect...were not done with a spray can.
May 6, 2005Hey Steve, good to see ya! (sorry for the small hijack) Brad I would really talk to some shops. Don't get me wrong, I love the do it yourself ones, but prep work is the key. I've ad some exterior stuff done, namely the running boards.
This stuff isn't done around here, so I took Steve's how to to the shop and discussed it with the guy I use. He charged me $125 to do the running boards. I watched him and there was ALOT of prepwork. They turned out great and have not one flaw in them to this day.
I guess I was never comfortable doing the prepwork corrctly and don't think I could have saved much. Good luck, keep us posted.
May 6, 2005I can wholeheartedly vouch for Steve - and Trent - on this one. I've done a few small things that look fine. When I say "small" I mean my rear license plate frame and spare tire access cover. Everything else has been done professionally. I recently tried to do my roof rack mounts. The prep work killed me, and I realized that I probably don't have the chops to achieve the results I'm after by doing the work myself.
Good luck with everything.
May 6, 2005Hi guys Don't get me wrong, some things small and I mean small or resonable can be done with spray can stuff even on the outside and I'd like to think that spray can paints have their place. What you have to determine is it's application, that is the key. For example, roof rail racks. I still have used pro auto paints for a flat matted look but I'm sure spray can paints can do the same thing as that to me, is a non crucial part of the car. Prep is king! Paint application is 2nd. Bumper, mirrors, flares ect... only pro paints apply here.
Tow hooks, roof racks, undercarrage ect.... spray can paints are fine.
Dash boards, interior parts for show cars? use only pro paints, but if you can live with less then perfect then spray can paints will do and it is less expensive.
May 6, 2005Thanks guys, I wouldnt use the spray paint on the outside either just thinking about using it for the interior. I would probably just do it all at once at the body shop if I was going to paint everything. As far a prep all I was gonna do is sand the plastic parts smooth and they do the rest to save on a little bit of labor.
May 6, 2005Hey Steve...I actually think the roof rack mounts should be done professionally, at least with respect to prep work. I sorely overestimated the effort (and expertise) of transforming textured plastic into a smooth surface.
For me, it comes down to wanting it done right. I love to do mods myself, but in this instance I bit off more than I can chew.
May 25, 2005Hey I have a few more questions about this. Can you use out of a can adhesive promoter and primer and then use paint and clear out of a gun or does everything have to be sprayed out of a gun to work right. Can I buy paint that is allready mixed ready to spray and about how much is that? Also do I want flex added for the plastic parts.
May 31, 2005For some of the interior stuff I have used spray cans but the paint was made only for those applications. Like recently I spray painted my flip-down screens moldings black. I used the right paint from Autozone and it looks like it had come out of the manufacturer. Good luck with everything, The Big Hawaiian
~Hey Steve I am going to be painting the plastic on my bumpers with spray cans this weekend so I will let you know how it turns out! LOL.....Just kidding brah! How much do you think it would be for a body shop to do those (labor,paint,and prep)? Thanks for your help, Kapono a.k.a. The Big Hawaiian